“Many environmentalists say we need to end the market economy. And what are we going to do? Recreate the Soviet Union? Communism is worse for the environment than capitalism, which isn’t the best either, but we need to feed eight million people. a day and that cannot be done with the communist policy of China”, stated the French sociologist and writer Frédéric Martel during his lecture at the Fronteiras do Pensamento cycle this Monday in São Paulo.
Author of bestsellers such as “In the Vatican Closet”, on corruption cases within the Vatican, and titles such as “Mainstream”, released ten years ago, and “Smart”, from 2015, Martel defended the already well-known concept that globalization is also a territorialized phenomenon.
Citing examples such as China, India and Russia, the sociologist explained how the fact that these countries do not have research tools and social media considered global, such as YouTube, Facebook, Google and Twitter, prevents the concept of internet globalization from be easily accepted.
“I’m not saying that all tools will be territorialized, but the contents will,” he explains. “In Silicon Valley, it was believed that the world would be flat, a surface without friction. I don’t believe in this analysis, since reality is fundamentally different from what was imagined. Culture and identity prevent the world from being flat. of an ethnocentrism, I observe the end of single flows and the birth of multiple, contradictory, many exchanges. We have never been and never will be global beings”, he defends.
Defender of the use of the environment as an influence on the culture and economy of a country through ecotourism, Martel began his lecture saying that he would not talk about politics, but he did not deprive himself of criticism of the government of Jair Bolsonaro with regard to the environmental agenda. , and praised the Lula government and former president Dilma Rousseff, both from the PT.
Regarding the period in which the former president and current candidate for the election was in power, the sociologist was categorical in stating that everyone was jealous when he announced that he would come to Brazil. “People came to Brazil imagining the future. Gilberto Gil was a minister, he was a minister god. Today, nobody talks about Brazil anymore, or speaks badly. It is the country that burns the Amazon, which does not accept help from the G7 to contain fires. On the way we forgot bossa nova, samba, Caetano Veloso.”
And about Dilma, Martel praises the fact that the former president was a visionary figure with regard to digital and economic territorialism. “Dilma was fifteen years ahead when talking about geolocation. She said that territorialization was needed because when there was a problem with Google, you wouldn’t have to write to San Francisco, but for an office here, there needs to be that thought.”
Still in the political field, the writer pondered the role of the internet and social networks in political causes, such as the elections of Jair Bolsonaro and Donald Trump and Brexit, all phenomena with campaigns initiated in the digital field.
“The networks did all this, but they also elected Joe Biden and Macron, they can also elect Lula, it cannot be said that the far right is in fact dominant in this field. There are harmful factors in the networks, but fake news is not a factor. What we need is to regulate it all, but I don’t believe that the world would be destroyed forever by digital evolution.”
“Globalization is what makes it possible to feed eight million people, clothe them, make them work at low prices, we need that. After we correct the excesses”, he concludes.
The Fronteiras do Pensamento cycle continues with online and in-person programming —in São Paulo and Porto Alegre— until November, with names such as Élisabeth Roudinesco, Luc Ferry, Steven Johnson and Marcelo Gleiser.